Bubbles McBubble's Journal, 23 May 23

Well good morning. I'm back in the game. Higher than before last week, but got complimented this morning on disappearing, so perhaps I am indeed losing fat, and just retaining water/food in the gut etc... would be nice to think so.

I have to tell the story of saturday night tho. because I totally went with the whole 'can't do keto so embrace the carbs' thing.

Dinner was curry and rice. I think I had a cup of rice, but I went back and had seconds of curry... At my friend's house they don't share punnets of curry, so I had a whole one for myself... OMG I scoffed that down.

And then pudding. Another friend there had a pie maker. Made individual pies. apple pies, and apricot pies. We were given 1/3 of each type of pie, and a gob of french vanilla icecream.

oh mama I haven't had icecream in a LONG time. (I am going to work on keto icecream but that's another story). Anyway that kicked me into major sugar relapse so I went back for another half an apricot pie and even more icecream.

I experienced the strangest thing.

My tummy has been this container kept somewhere in the back of my guts for some time now. Doesn't get hungry, doesn't really let me know it exists at all. but on Saturday night, I ate and ate until my stomach physically hurt, but I was still ravenously hungry.

So. My tummy sent starving/overfull messages. I stopped eating when the pain outweighed the ravenous greed.

Incredible experience. Not recommended. Starving and overfull at the same time.

I never get that any more. With keto I have been satisfied long before my stomach was full. And also in the mean-time I think my stomach has shrunk so it was having a hard time with 2 helpings of curry and 2 helpings of pud. Which I probably could have managed in the past.

So... more grist for my anti-carb mill. This is how we suffer on high carb, or how I suffered on high carb at any rate: needed to eat a heckton of food to feel satisfied, if I did... had to stretch the stomach to accommodate it. Now I don't have to.

stop ranting bridget. get back to work....
88.1 kg Lost so far: 14.9 kg.    Still to go: 3.1 kg.    Diet followed: Reasonably Well.

View Diet Calendar, 23 May 2023:
1389 kcal Fat: 114.59g | Prot: 55.44g | Carbs: 28.61g.   Breakfast: Bridgie's Keto Unstunt coffee. Lunch: Bridgie's Keto Unstunt coffee. Dinner: Mainland Colby Cheese, bridgie's keto chicken satay wrap. Snacks/Other: Justine's double choc dream protein brownie, well naturally white chocolate no sugar added. more...
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Ahhhh bubbles i know the feeling of eating till you feel sick. It’s not fun. Back on the map again. Todays a new day. You’ve lost over 30 pounds and are only 5 pounds away from leaving the 90’s!!! You’ve got this love!!! 
22 May 23 by member: Yearofhealth2023
YOH you say the loveliest things. I just read your comment about 3 times. Yes, Yes I have lost over 30lb! :) Go me! And back onto my coffee with cream, which is my morning go-to, I'm comfortable in my guts again. :)  
22 May 23 by member: Bubbles McBubble
Well darlin you are sooooo close to next breakthru. Curious—what is your dream weight (ish) and how tall are you? I think we are within 5-10 years of each other Im guessing.  
22 May 23 by member: Yearofhealth2023
I'm 5'51/2", age 53. I used to weigh 54kg (119lb), but I think that's too light now, I used to get sick a lot and basically didn't eat. I'd probably be happy with anything under 70kg (132lb). Well to be fair, I'm happy already that I'm no longer over 200lb. At that point my waist disappears although my boobs are large... It's the diabetes, all the fat on my body from legs to arms has crawled to my tummy, and so all my sexy lingerie doesn't fit, even though I weigh less than I did when I bought it. LOL. I think my first non food goal is to get back into the xena warrior princess outfit. After that, the sky's the limit. I'm less concerned about losing weight tho, than I am about making my body healthy again, which is happening at last. :)  
22 May 23 by member: Bubbles McBubble
Im so relieved t hear that! I agree 119 sounds a little light for your height and younger than me age😂. Is it possible the diabetes will be undetectable at a certain point in your health journey? Im really really rooting for you down under 
22 May 23 by member: Yearofhealth2023
Btw my highest weight was 227 so we have the same starting point😂 
22 May 23 by member: Yearofhealth2023
And your blood sugar after all of that was ?  
22 May 23 by member: Kenna Morton
Lol @Kenna I shudder to think. I don't have the money for the continuous glucose monitor any more, and I can't really cope with the finger pricking, so I just don't know how bad it got. I have other symptoms when my bloods go high: I fall asleep, and also the neuropathy can go half way up my legs (buzzing, nerve damage). I don't recall those going that high. I think one glucose shock was probably able to be metabolised reasonably well? I feel like my pancreas is healing over time. So it's not something I want to do a lot, but I don't feel too bad about it for now. 
22 May 23 by member: Bubbles McBubble
@YOH yes, 227 for me is 103kg, anything over 100kg was just... something had to be done. I was roly poly. A boule de suif. Physically uncomfortable, with it all being stacked on around the middle, I would look at my toenails that needed cutting, sigh and say 'maybe another day.' :D The pressure of my tummy on the tops of my thighs when sitting was uncomfortable. I couldn't sleep on my tummy in bed, and that's my natural sleep position. So a lot of secondary discomfort, yanno? I think I mentioned the chub rub reducing. Now it's a delicate chub swish. light, delicate. :D not thunderous and pantyhose-balling. :D :D  
22 May 23 by member: Bubbles McBubble
I've eaten till I felt sick before and it's not a good feeling nor do I feel good after wards. I do low carb but not keto low. I eat about 100 carbs a day, and my goal is to eat mostly complex carbs. When I occasionally overload on sugar and simple carbs my body goes into a tizzy! Get back on the wagon, you'll be fine💜 
22 May 23 by member: Diana 1234
@Diana Thanks: I'm experimenting lately, this experiment was fascinating in that the important thing isn't so much the eating of fat for me, as the avoidance of carbs. I can eat 120g of fat, it won't help if I also eat 120g of carb. ....... For me carbs create the craving, and whatever insulin I have going is kicking in, dragging the sugars away and storing them, leaving me desperate again. It's not my friend. And it shows to me the triggering of ghrelin (hunger hormone) which was mega activated, and the failure for the leptin to kick in. ............ Make sense? All of those things I thought were physical, mechanical experiences (eg your stomach is physically empty and it asks for more food) I find are not anything to do with your physical situation. They are hormones activating and telling your brain stuff. And the proof was that the physical bag in my guts (my stomach) was indeed hella full, but the 'feed me I'm starving' message was still screaming loud. I'm not sure I'm getting the point across, or my amazement about it.... Everything I ever thought was true about dieting is wrong, and it's just being proven more and more to me every day. Being on keto for me is not so much about losing weight as it is about not feeling sick, hungry or desperate or exhausted all day every day. Which will be the diabetes - but meanwhile not being a slave to my guts has been the most amazing windfall I just can't express it. 
22 May 23 by member: Bubbles McBubble
But still, is the diabetes able to become undetectable with weight loss and excercise? That would be a very exciting goal. Like my goal of trying to get my cholesterol into the borderline high but dont need meds range rather than in the high range. Im getting it down. Is this the same for you? 
22 May 23 by member: Yearofhealth2023
@YOH diabetes is being mechanically managed rather than automatically; ie with no sugar in the blood, insulin is not triggered, and the failure for me to produce it properly isn't noticeable. Having a 'glucose challenge' confirms whether the pancreas is healing or not, my experiences are that it is healing and becoming more reactive to sugar in the blood. They say it's reversable; I think when the blood sugars are low enough for long enough my organs will heal and come right. I'm experimenting to see if my thyroid comes back on line, which is also underfunctioning and possibly from the same reason - free sugars in the blood. As to the cholesterol, the diabetes nurse banged on about going on statins but I saw the doc a few days ago and she never said anything about it. I know it's high, around 8 nz (no idea how you score it in the US.) Should be under 5 for LDL. But the new science is that cholesterol is no longer bad for you so if I hang on in there for long enough, maybe the doctors will buy into that. For now I'm just seeing if high fat, low sugar will stop damaging the LDL and that way my blood LDL may go down, but I'm not limiting eaten saturated fats, if anything I'm eating as much saturated fat as I can get to test the theory. If I'm right, it won't increase my cholesterol, it'll slightly reduce it. If I'm wrong, I'll think about that when I get to it. The cholesterol myth has only really recently been debunked, so it's still fragile and in its beginner stages. EG they've started realising cholesterol in the walls of your veins come as a reaction to damage caused by sugar. They're your body trying to stop up the breakage. Putty up the cracks. Causation is different to what we were all taught. So if that new science is true, (which I'm banking on) then my methods are best and will show results. And if I'm wrong, I can change direction when I get evidence. :)  
22 May 23 by member: Bubbles McBubble
@YOH sorry I didn't even answer your question. No, not weight loss and exercise. Just reduction of eaten sugar. :)  
22 May 23 by member: Bubbles McBubble
oh and by sugar I include all carbs, as the first thing your body does with them is to break them down into simple sugars. :)  
22 May 23 by member: Bubbles McBubble
Wowwwweeee thanks for that detailed explanation. I got sent for a cardiac calcium test when my cholesterol was in sky high range and was having loads of rapid arrhythmia. Got a clean bell on that one. Wishing you super good results. 
22 May 23 by member: Yearofhealth2023
@yoh I am my own petrie dish. :D And my reward is not wanting to barf all the time, which is my least favourite sensation. :D 
22 May 23 by member: Bubbles McBubble
Bleck…that gave me a really unpleasant image😝. Best to keep the contents of ones nutrition safely escaping from the tummy thru natures intended final destination. Just a thought😂 
22 May 23 by member: Yearofhealth2023
The body might know, but the brain overrides. Body might be hungry, but if there's only $10 in the wallet, nicotine addict will buy pack of smokes and mint candy instead of food.  
23 May 23 by member: JustBananas
@Bubbles: Sounds to me like you need a strategy for handling social gatherings. You stumbled food-wise when meeting with family visitors a week ago, too. A lot of dieters have this same issue, so you're not alone. Could you eat before you go? Could you design a plan for the food in advance, like having a bowl of curry but no rice and no dessert? 
23 May 23 by member: JustBananas

     
 

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