Snowwhite100's Journal, 16 Sep 23

My dieting is going better now but is still slow. In the last 5 months, I have had wine 5 times and averaged having (a sugar) dessert once every 10 days. Bread products continue to be a constant problem and I have averaged partaking once every 5 days. I continue Intermittent Fasting daily from 16 to 20 hours a day. As almost all of you know, it's tough. I have about 9 pounds to go to get back where I was last November when our daughter died of cancer. I love my FS friends here and I want to make contact. Your support and prayers have been life-giving. My life is lonely but I do not participate in any other social media. My intention when I joined FS about 5 years ago was for health and to try Keto and Intermittent Fasting. I had scared myself twice while driving and was worried about my memory. My life is complicated and I would never advise others to try to do what I am doing: live with an abusive husband. But so far, I “want” to do it. There are many reasons but often when I write about it to get some off my chest, some people, not knowing my circumstances insist I leave. If I tell you what's happening to release some of my pent-up emotions I seem to get on a roll and can't quit writing. It's hard for me to endure the comments (some private messages) that I write too much, that I'm mentally ill, that I'm focused on possessions, and all the forms of my stupidity for staying. The mental abuse is the same: almost daily angry at me. The physical abuse has gotten worse so I believe he is escalating and more dangerous. But I also believe it would be worse to leave. The worst of it was only one incident four weeks ago and while he absolutely physically abused and humiliated me I am okay. Few know about or understand how varied the symptoms of true Narcissism are, so if you either happen to be in an abusive situation or want to know more, Dr. Ramani on YouTube is the finest expert. The last video of hers that I watched was “Scary personality traits that make narcissists EXTREMELY dangerous.” I can't relate to what happened without going over why I want to stay. To save space I won't give the comments or questions that these reasons of mine target.

The altruistic reasons I want to stay are meaningless to some. My neighbor and some others say he doesn't matter. But he matters to me and he matters to God. My husband was the love of my life, I still love him, he needs me, and I've wanted to finish my course with honor. I promised “for better or worse” and being almost (next month) 82 years old I was raised in a culture of non-divorce and “stand by your man”. I don't readily hear from God but since I want my husband's best I assume my “want to” is the Lord's will. And I am going on the premise that it will have to be the Lord to tell me if I need to leave. I try not to think about the possibility that in my humanness I may get so upset or hurt that I might run. The Lord has held me so far, so I am hoping I can stay close enough to Him to know what is best to do. As of four weeks ago I am moving closer to allowing for the possibility that I might not be able to handle what's coming. But as of a week ago I know I still don't want to leave and “just for today” I don't need to know what tomorrow will bring. I can only throw myself on the mercy of the Lord. Here I have a warm place to sleep and food to eat. I believe I am safer here than leaving. What would it look like if I left? If a victim of someone with serious Narcissist Personality Disorder leaves, it is 75% more dangerous than staying. They are usually great people with everyone else in their life (as is my husband) but want complete control over their victim. If the victim leaves, the perpetrator has nothing more to lose. I realize now that if I ever left him, it would never again be safe to be with him alone. Think O.J. Simpson. He has threatened to shoot me, to cut off my legs, and many other things, and 4 weeks ago he said we may kill each other. He already is speaking of suicide, his brother did it. Two years ago he wrote goodbye notes to me, his nephew, and our daughter and took money out of the bank for her. This year in May and June he was again speaking of suicide. In July he said he would smash my face in and break all my teeth. A week ago he said, referring to the physical abuse he did 4 weeks ago, he may do it again plus worse. My only alternative would be to go “no contact” for the rest of my life. To move away entirely, to disappear. I couldn't stay in our home or in our little cabin. I think he would come to kill me and commit suicide. Yes, there are shelters, but for how long? Then what? Here are some facts. I mentioned I am almost 82. I have a very bad back, being born with fractures in L5 vertebrae and 3 bulging disks. I have sciatica from my back part of the time. When I cook or clean for more than about a half hour or so I have to go sit or lay down for a while. Last year he closed our savings account and opened new ones in only his name. I can't touch them. He even took my Social Security savings. He suggested he may give it to the poor, and in case he files for divorce (which he has threatened) I'm sure he would hide it and I would never get a penny of it. I make $530.00 a month for Social Security. Last year when he wanted me to leave it was $470.00. He gets $200.00 a month in Social Security so that wouldn't help. He took a lower pension 25 years ago so “the surviving spouse” would get a pension if he dies. I do not want to “trigger” him to get a divorce. He is very vindictive! If he gets triggered or “shaken up” I believe he is capable of anything, like burning the house down. On $530. a month I'd have to live in my car. At 82 years old? That's not very safe. What about my bad back? I have no relatives to go to. Those people who tell me to leave may not realize my age and assume I have a job. If someone was nice enough to let me sleep on their couch, for how long would that work? Would you want me on your couch for years? Would you pay for my food, doctors, and medicine? My heart has 3 leaky valves and an electrical problem. What about my clothes and possessions? Plus I would be miserable worrying about my husband. When he drives he goes through stop signs and red lights. It would be devastating to my husband's physical health if I left, and he would probably die quickly. He has a myriad of physical problems. He has heart failure, COPD, and cancer that has already spread to his lymph although it seems in remission. He wears a CPAP and oxygen at night plus some during the day. Many ask about a “home” for him. They don't put you in a “home” for being mean. Plus we do not qualify for Medicaid because of our little cabin and small savings. No, I don't want to leave my comfortable home of 52 years even though I've slept on the couch for a year since he locked me out of the house and the bedroom. I'm grateful to have a warm place to sleep and food to eat. Thank you, Lord. If you can hold onto all that maybe tomorrow I can tell you what he did. Does it matter?
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Holding you in my heart Snowwhite. May the Angels watch over you. 💚💜💛 
16 Sep 23 by member: shirfleur 1
Snowy i cannot imagine the fear and anxiety you live with. It is certainly unfair. I know the Lord never intended you, nor anyone, to live in such a violent and abusive situation. I lived with a violent controlling abusive older man for nearly 4 years when i was young. Without going into details, i was young and naive and he encouraged me to get into debt, put my car loan and his in my name and other things. I didn’t work, he paid all the bills and gave me a weekly “allowance”. (Was 18 when i first started dating him). I didnt realize he was doing those things to bind me to him financially. He broke my nose, left bruises on me many times and yet i stayed as i didnt know how i could support myself with all the debt i had without him. And then, he came home late one night and i pretended to be sleeping. I felt him standing over me. And then he kicked my sweet dog. That was the last night he ever saw me. I came very close to dying that night. He had a phone cord wrapped around my neck while i was trying to call 911. I was not quite 22 years old and alone in the world. I got away from him and left with my dog and very little else. I do understand and yet it seems that you know very well he likely will kill you. Your life has value snowy. You are a kind sweet woman. I wish i had an answer for you. There must be a solution somewhere. God bless you and keep you safe. 
16 Sep 23 by member: Yearofhealth2023
SnowWhite, I read your post today and was so thankful that you have the strength and courage to share what your experiences have been. I pray that doing so helps you. It may not seem as if God is speaking to you but He is with you... always. His yoke is easy and His burden is light. There is a peace in this life that only He can provide...Rest in His love for you. I'm praying God's strength, courage, peace and love for you.... I'm praying for your husband as well - that the Spirit will soften his heart and he will hear God's call.  
17 Sep 23 by member: Happy*Snappy
Snow White, I know it’s easy for us, who are not in abusive relationships to tell you to leave but PLEASE try to find the strength to get out. Situations like this only get worse. They NEVER get better. Praying for you. I hope you will find the strength you need to help you walk out the the door and never look back ❤️ 
17 Sep 23 by member: Slim Snooty
I do not “want” to abandon my husband. He is like a sick child. I ask the Lord to not hold my husband's sins against him. I want him to go to Heaven so I pray whatever I know to that end. Advanced Narcissism is not very amenable to counseling. Some believe only 1% can or will change. Some others say 1 to 3%. People with NPD think they are right and other people are the problem. But God teaches us to pray for them regardless. So I do pray that God gives him every chance. I love him and want his best. It was asked if you can love someone you are afraid of, and I'm guessing that in the human realm, the answer may become no. But God is in my heart, so this must be God's love flowing through me. I believe that “just for today” God wants me here. Why would I try to find the strength to do something against God's will? I'm not a Joseph but when Joseph went into Potiphar's home as a slave, he could have tried to run away. His brothers put him in a well and then sold him into slavery. But Joseph said later God meant it for good and used Joseph to save all of Egypt and the Jewish nation. God is using this to refine me, and there is much in me that needs refining. God may direct me to leave soon, or he may take out my husband to protect me. I don't know what will happen “tomorrow”. I don't really have a marriage anymore and I am grieving for that. We are more like roommates. And some or much of the time he is pleasant but doesn't speak to me. It has become quieter and quieter here. Then he explodes. I try to do everything he asks, quickly. But I still object to his illogic sometimes or make other suggestions. I can't completely control my tongue perfectly. I can't be perfect. I try and try and I'm getting better but perfect is hard. Are you perfect when someone says horrible things about you? If your face or tone of voice is not perfectly cheerful? I live in Los Angeles, apartments here start at $2,500. up. A garage rents for $1,500. Could I feed myself and live on $530.00 a month in my car? Where should I park? Down on the boulevard with other homeless. I'm afraid to park all alone. I'm an 81-year-old woman, small and vulnerable. I'm afraid to be alone. I don't know how to use the smartphone my daughter gave me. If I don't eat maybe I could afford WiFi for my computer. But in my car? I can't cook in my car, and I would have no refrigeration. And what would I do with my time? I can't take my sewing hobby with me. I have interstitial cystitis where my bladder lining is compromised and I pee every hour day and night. When I have a flare I am in constant pain and use a lot of D-Mannose. Could I afford it if I don't eat? Because of the stress I have had intermittent diarrhea for years. Where do you put a portapotty in a car? At 81 I'm not very flexible. I couldn't shower living in a car after the diarrhea. I'm not as young as you. Would you want to live in a car with no job and no money? To walk away from all my worldly possessions and only have what I can keep in my car? Do you think I want to at 81? Rather than doing that I might as well lay down now and stop eating. Yes, as long as he is alive, if he gets a divorce, the court would give me some money but how long would that take and how much would be there? Since he retired 25 years ago, there is not enough pension to support 2 apartments. I would lose doctor coverage. I would lose my life. I'm just losing my life a little slower this way. I'm glad to have a couch to sleep on, inside a house, with a toilet and shower, and food. I appreciate a stove and a refrigerator. So I try to keep my mouth shut, cook nice meals, and help him with his computer, T.V., and telephone. Statistics say 50% of those abused stay. There are many reasons: young kids, money, ill health, and fear are just a few. My Christian prayer partner just held up her mother to me as a paragon of virtue for staying in a marriage where she was physically abused for 40 years. I don't want to call that prayer partner anymore because she told me that if I didn't do what she said, she wasn't going to talk to me anymore. I've said more here than anyone wants to know. Yes, you see when I get on a roll, it's hard for me to stop, and now I am depressed.  
17 Sep 23 by member: Snowwhite100
You are very strong and a committed wife ! I have heard many story’s of couples been married for so long and one of them start to get very violent! I can’t imagine going through that and sticking to it. Stay strong keep praying and stick to your diet. For your health!  
17 Sep 23 by member: Pemar777
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17 Sep 23 by member: Myfavsnafflebit
Snow-white I'm praying for you sweetie for God to give you the support and help you need anything else you need and always be with you no matter what I know he will be there for you. But I'm still going to say some prayers for you and your hubby to.  
17 Sep 23 by member: SaraRiley
Glad you’re journaling again! So glad you mentioned it in my post, or I would have missed it as I just use the phone app 95% of the time now. Last week (before your posts), I told my husband to put you back on our small church’s prayer list. Right now, your faith in God and the prayers of others are all you have to sustain you. I hope that those who read your posts WILL pray for you, asking God to protect you, to give you peace, to provide a support system, and to give you the wisdom you need to make decisions in your life. None of us have been exactly where you are, and I hope people will refrain from judging you based on what they think they would do in your situation. You need lots of virtual hugs right now! Here’s one from me: 🤗. May God strengthen you for each new day. May He protect you from physical, mental and emotional abuse. May He give you peace and comfort in knowing that you are saved and will get to spend eternity in Heaven! In Christian Love, Debbie 
17 Sep 23 by member: Debbie Cousins
I'm going through a patch too.  
17 Sep 23 by member: Iikat
Praying for you SW! Your situation fills me with compassion and I feel so bad for you. Sending hugs!🩷🩷🩷🙏🙏🙏🙏 
17 Sep 23 by member: Diana 1234
As always I am happy and relieved to see a new journal entry from you. I worry that something has happened to you when you are missing on here. It sounds like you have been physically abused since you last entry. I urge you to to contact the police if you think he escalates to the point you are in danger. I know you don't want to cause more trouble between the two of you, but he can't continue to become increasingly violent. I am afraid for you! Please know there are those who want your situation to improve and we worry about you. Hugs!! 
18 Sep 23 by member: rhontique
You matter to all of us here . Sending prayers and uplifting energy your way 🙏💙💙🙏 please God cover our sister in Christ with your comfort , peace and love . Fill her home with peace 🙏💙 In Jesus name we pray 
18 Sep 23 by member: CharlieLovesChaplin
I know that it doesn't help but I understand your feelings and desire to maintain your marriage. I can't do much but if it be a little helpful I stand in your corner. 
18 Sep 23 by member: Leah_guffey
I so appreciate all the good wishes and prayers expressed here. Rontique, I want to respond to your kind message. You have checked up on me more than any other here so I love you for that and the sweet person you are. Please, please don't take offense that I want to play with your words a little. Of course, you aren't a “student” of what a true narcissist can be like. If I were you I would say those exact words to someone else. But from where I sit, things look different. If I guess that your words: “he can't continue to become increasingly violent” means that he can't be allowed to, then I have to ask myself, who is going to stop him? If he hasn't actually harmed me yet, the police aren't going to put him in jail. If one is thinking that a warning by the police for him to not be violent, would help him control himself, it not only would not help him, but would actually anger him to the point of him being more dangerous. About 10 or more years ago, when he threatened me, our daughter told me that if I ever called the police on him I would pay dearly for it, that he would take it out on me. I now see that is true. Last year when Adult Protective Services came out I agreed to call the police if he assaulted me physically but I have since changed my mind. I believe if I called the police on him I would be so afraid of him I would have to move away. Only sane logical people take a warning. He has said repeatedly that he doesn't care if I call the police or even if he goes to jail. I believe him. His health and medications are so complicated he would die rather quickly if he went to jail or another facility. Since I feel I would need to leave him and never see him alone again if I crossed him enough to call the police on him, I think I might as well just leave without bothering to call them. Some people say the police won't do anything but just tell you both to “get along”. I suppose I might get upset enough that I would lose my resolve and call them but I hope not. It would not give me any time to plan a getaway. I'm sorry I have put you in the situation of being afraid for me. Actually, I'm afraid too but try not to think about it. I'm throwing myself on the mercy of the Lord. I think we all need to do that in this day and age. It was two and a half years ago that I first said the words that I was afraid of my husband. Just because I tried to walk away from him (without saying a word) when he was yelling at me he grabbed me by my clothes around my neck and threw me around the room. It's a miracle I didn't fall and break something since I have severe osteoporosis. I wrote a letter telling about it to my two nephews and their wives that live about 50 miles from me. Not one of the four of them contacted me or said one word about it. I was crushed. Later when they were clearing out their late mother's (my sister) house I asked them if they read my letter. They all responded yes, but again not one of the four said one word about it other than one of them had shown the letter to our daughter. No compassion, no support, nothing. I thought they would be my backup since our daughter had cancer that had already spread. I don't know if they didn't believe me or just didn't want to hear something negative about their uncle. Does that mean they don't care about me? One of the nephews and his wife will not speak to me since and would not even respond to my letter and call, inviting them to the memorial for our daughter after she died. And they socialized in their homes. The other nephew does not call me once every 5 years but did come to the memorial alone. Neither his wife nor adult sons that live with them came or called. His wife did call me last October after learning that our daughter was deteriorating to see what her situation was. She referred to my husband and my “problem” with him by saying to me that she didn't want to hear anything about it but: “that when the time came, to put him in a home.” I have not had the opportunity to tell her that he took all our savings, locked me out, and all the other things he did, including physical abuse because she “doesn't want to hear about it.” I doubt the “time will come”, as she says because they don't put people in a home for being mean or having a personality disorder. The neurologist at UCLA and his Social Worker said this year that my husband has “no mental deficiency.” Funny, since even my husband says he has memory loss. He also has had a small stroke, many TIA's, brain shrinkage, and something like a tumor in his brain. Yes, my husband is slowly getting worse. I called a Christian attorney a year ago after he took our money and locked me out, and she said to get a restraining order and that half of our (small) savings was mine. With a restraining order, you can't see each other. That means I need to go away. If they made him move I would not be safe in our home, or little cabin in the mountains. I believe he would come to kill me and commit suicide. It would take a court order to get my half of our savings and again I would have to move away to be safe. Then comes the scenario of me moving into our car to live with the homeless. I can afford to buy a tent but I'm afraid of living like that by myself. I guess the car would be safer. He is so vindictive I believe if he decided to commit suicide he would burn the house down just so I couldn't have it. When we were separated he wouldn't give me a penny to help feed our children because he said: “he didn't want me to make it without him.” But should I move into my car just because I can't keep my mouth completely shut? Everyone is surprised he has lived so long. I don't know when one of us will have a heart attack, stroke, serious fall or car accident, or die. We both are at quite a bit of risk so I'm thinking one of these things will occur eventually. I need to do my very best to keep my facial expression and voice pleasant and hold my tongue to not cross him in any way. It snuck up on me this last time. Well, I guess it did every time. Thank you for your care and well wishes. Yes, he is dangerous now, and yes I am somewhat afraid of the future. I am trying oh so hard to not say or do anything negative to him and yes, my future is bright. Because I accept Jesus' sacrifice on the cross for my sins, I get to spend all eternity in heaven and I am anxious to go. My husband does not have that. Please pray for him, and for me also. For his salvation, for my safety, that I don't do anything stupid, get too depressed, my physical health, and my mental and emotional health. It's only with the Lord that I can breathe and stay somewhat sane.  
18 Sep 23 by member: Snowwhite100
Snowwhite, It sounds to me like it's time to reconnect with the social workers from protective services. Paranoia and violence can be a symptom of dementia, and there are facilities that are equipped to deal with people who've reached that stage. My SIL is a social worker for hospice, and he sees it often - families who reach the point of no longer being able to deal with this at home. Please reach out to your local services. You need some help.  
18 Sep 23 by member: erikahollister
Thank you for your responses and concern. erikaholister: My husband was diagnosed in the last 3 months by a neurologist at UCLA and a Social Worker they picked as NOT having dementia. He is still driving and doing yard work, even going to the top of a ladder and our roof to trim two big wisterias. He repairs complicated sprinkler systems. About 4 months ago he replaced our water heater single-handedly doing all the welding and adapting of parts. He repaired our washing machine about 6 months ago. There is no way he would go into a "facility" and if knew I had anything to do with it he would be very dangerous (to me only) indeed. He is very sweet and charming to everyone else and they would never believe how different he is to me. This is not unusual for a person with advanced narcissism. Adult Protective Services were recently out again when I wasn't home. The Social Worker spoke with him and was satisfied with him and only offered to help him with any needs he had. My husband looks like a pussy cat. There is a picture of us on page 8, March 7, 2020, that is actually about 6 years old. Doesn't he look like the nicest guy you would ever want to know? No wonder I fell in love with him.  
18 Sep 23 by member: Snowwhite100
Thanks for the further info. I recently got caught into the web of a contractor who seemed totally charming, but later things didn't go well and he broke into abusive screaming. I was shocked, but had to deal with it, so he could finish the job he was in the middle of. Everyone else thinks he's a charming gent, and they basically don't believe me that this happened. I can hardly wait to see him out, so that I never have to see him again. 
19 Sep 23 by member: erikahollister
Yes, of course it matters. You matter! 
28 Sep 23 by member: bearnoggin

     
 

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