Egull1's Journal, 14 May 24

Mini update - I reached out to my care team yesterday and gave them a condensed version of my first experience with RONA similar to what I put in my last FS post. Nurse Christy responded with:

"I am so glad you fought the battle and won!!! Your message had us giggling. Dr. Craddock is happy to order a CBC for you, she just wanted you to be aware that after COVID or any other severe infection, your counts can be "off" for a while until they finally self-correct. We can draw this, but it may need to be repeated. I will put the order in, it is up to you."

A few things bare noting for context here. Christy is purposely referring to my counts as potentially being "off" instead of using the word "low" because my specialist and me have a long standing argument/debate of t cell -count threshold. Jessica goes more by the western model and likes the "cut-off" to be around .6 or less before taking a patient off their meds.

I'm of course, less brazen with my immune system. It's true that PML --> progressive multifocal leukoencephalopathy & death from JVC is rare. But, if I'm hopping around the MS forums and come across random posts stating

"Yeah, that person isn't around anymore. Their t-cell count got to low from their ms meds and they died from PML..."

That tells me, the bottom line is there ARE folks who have died within the my community specifically because their meds wiped out their immunity enough that they had no protection from any cold/flu/virus at all. So, my t-cell count threshold is on the higher end around .8 X 10(9) per L.

However, this is a different situation. Depending on what we find, If my t-cell count is extremely low right now - it wasn't technically my meds that tanked them. That credit would belong to RONA. It puts us all in a pickle of a circumstance. But, I'm not inclined to get off the ms med even if the virus wiped out my immune system's army because in this case given some time, my t-cells "should" be able to recover.

But, I'm also aware that because of the immuno-suppressant I'm taking - regeneration of new t-cells may not happen quickly and I'm also aware I may never hit the 44% I was before. But, I can live with that as long as I'm around .8 X10(9)/ cells per Liter.

So, my response was

"Definitely, put the order in so we can see what the lay of the land is. And, let Jessica know it's okay I'm not going to panic if the t-cell or WBC count is super low. I'm definitely staying on the the meds. In fact, right now I'm very diligent about taking them because if I do have any tired soldiers left - I'm not about to let this system use friendly fire. Last thing we need right now is a flare up in any, way, shape or form. But, some precautions may need to be used if the counts are very low and maybe some immune boosting foods and patience. No problem with repeating the blood draws so we can just monitor what's happening"

The gist of this is that I may need to be a "girl in a bubble" for a bit until we know what we're working with. I'll be getting the first draw a week from today and have prepped this mind not to be surprised by anything I see...unless it's pleasant of course! LOL!

In the meantime, I just implore the same methods I used to beat RONA, because, ironically they are actually the same methods that help regenerate new t-cells! Fancy that!

Anyhow - Have a beautiful, blessed day everyone. It's been a gorgeous spring! I hope you enjoy a few flowers from our garden :-)

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Hmmm, for some reason I suspect that if you play girl in a bubble, you’re going to be running like a hamster or floating in the pool just to keep moving. Fingers crossed for optimal results, my friend. 
14 May 24 by member: Katsolo
I know, right?! LOL - Kat, You know me too well! And, I've been known to be all dramatic and say righteously to my care team and family, "I'M NOT GOING TO BE A DAMN GIRL IN A BUBBLE, I WOULD RATHER DIE." Of course when push comes to shove, the real me says "well, what kind of bubble wrap is on the market these days...? Living in a bubble might now be so bad if I can still hit 300 watts on the bike" ;-) 
14 May 24 by member: Egull1
I was thinking one of those water walker bubbles might be fun. The ones you see at beach resorts. 
14 May 24 by member: Katsolo
Oh, totally - that would be great cardio but jolly good fun! Knowing how much I sweat, I'd probably steam up my bubble :-) 
14 May 24 by member: Egull1
She just kept running and running and they never saw her again…. 🤣 
14 May 24 by member: Katsolo
😂🤣🤣😂😅 
14 May 24 by member: Egull1
Love that you can talk about your t-cell counts and pivot to the gorgeous flowers. Wishing you well!! 
14 May 24 by member: Boldwoman
You are just amazing! So strong and resilient! I'm in awe of you💜 
14 May 24 by member: Diana 1234
Egull1: Two things first I love the lil quail it's so cute 🥰... the second is it's sad how much more I'm learn from you then I am from my doctors >< ... 
14 May 24 by member: Leah_guffey
Flowers (spring) and 🦅 (the bird has feathers 🤗 
14 May 24 by member: Livin_Breezy
@Leah- the whole flock of quail have taken over the backyard this summer. But, I confess we love our quail out here in the Pac Northwest and so they are all free to come and go as they please in the neighborhood. I suspect the ones that are hanging out are actually grown babies from years past that are just coming back to their natal territory. As for what you're learning via these posts. I can relate, actually as I learned a LOT of the basics in the beginning from the MS forums like MS World and even MS Society. A lot of neurologists don't like it when we visit the forums and "discuss" because they think we'll come out of those discussions taking on other MS issues we may not actually be dealing with or have to deal with. But, I found that assumption complete B.S. It's actually in those forums that you learn all the different ways people are impacted. I never left a single forum thinking I had 50 other different issues. What I appreciated so much was the frankness, candor, advice, and acceptance of those folks dealing with progression and flare ups on a far greater scale than you or me who didn't even bat an eye and kept on going. Nobody sugar coats things in the forums, but unlike doctors they sense when a newbie needs some guidance or clarity about what lay ahead. With regards to my relationship with my own care team and specialist. It's long and sordid. Jessica and I are like one of those couple's that fight all the time, but can't quit eachother and believe me we've both been close. She's a specialist in her field, but I am specialist in my own which also incorporated a decent working knowledge of the brain and central nervous system in addition to many years of field experience that accompanied my graduate degree. She's not talking to a patient - I make sure she and the rest of the staff know she's talking to a peer in her own respective field when we discuss this condition. And, she was forewarned from the get-go which is why she allowed me to diagnose myself and confirmed the DX within the first 5 minutes of the very first visit. So, we are constantly bumping heads at times about approach and protocol. On the other hand, it's kinda worth the fight because unlike I get to order my blood tests, MRI's, and manage my treatment approaches any way I want too. They give me a LOT of freedom without question and I greatly appreciate that...However, I can honestly say in this situation we're all on the same page for once. LOL! @BW - I'm glad you enjoy the flowers. They outdid their costumes this year! @Diana - thank you my dear. It does catch up at times and I find my head playing the role of the "girl with the condition". But, I try to remember this condition is not who I am and this situation in no way defines the extent of my potential. A human may have boundaries, but a "human being" has none - and a being's heart only knows one language when our minds are clear enough...and that is love. When I come from that peaceful space I know everything is okay no matter what happens :-) 
14 May 24 by member: Egull1

     
 

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