poppycom's Journal, 21 Apr 17

Weird..fs says this was posted an hour ago, but it was posted yesterday.. seems to have list all the helpful comments too.. ? Fs glitch😲😲 

Same comment (sort of) as last time - up the fats - butter is good - you need to be doing low carb, moderate protein, high fat - ration 5%/15-25%/70-80% fat. As a low mover I work on 0.5 kilo of protein for each kilo I weigh. Cut the skimmed milk - the only thing in it really is lactose - sugar. I use whole milk for most things and cream in my coffee. The reason for fasting for people like us - lot to lose/lost ending up with baggy skin - is autophagy - your body eating itself. If you stay in fat burning then your body will recycle old, worn out cells - like loose skin and use it for making new ones. That's the only problem with a) too much protein (plus it can be turned into glucose quite easily) and b) eating 800 calories in a day rather than 200 - no autophagy. Using fasting and low carb you can lose your weight without having much in the way of baggy skin. Sorry that it was so long 

Thanks minitata.. am on semiskimmed as of today.. I really don't like whole milk.. I only use it fir Yorkshire puddings/pancakes which I don't eat now because of the carbs I gues I'm unlearning 45 years of eating and learning new habits so it's going to take time. I've tried green tea and fruit teas but so far haven't found anything I liked.. but I've cut my milk in my tea down from half (125 MLS per mug) to 20-30 MLS per mug. Like everything else, it's a learning curve and work in progress towards a healthier me 😊😊 

This happened to me once when I posted on the site but answered a comment in the app. It was a long time ago though. 

I have tried many different fasts in my life, including strict water only for as many days as I could - usually no more than 3. Juice fasts; liver-cleansing; apple cider vinegar; lime chili and maple syrup; lemon water and 1 tiny meal a day; etc. Then, there were so many variety of schedules for those fasts. I have to admit that every one was begun with great enthusiasm and what seemed like a very good result of several pounds lost in 1 or 2 week. But these fasts were always followed by voracious refueling, binge-eating, guilt and frustration, with most of the recently lost weight being gained right back. I haven't tried the weekly "2:5" intermittent fast, but I suspect, for me, it would go just like all the others. Because what they all have in common is that none of them are sustainable for life. The withholding of food for several days always builds up a relentless appetite and I always end up yo-yo dieting. On the other hand, a daily I.F. of 16:8 is less of a fast, and more a regulating of body function. I've been working at this since the beginning of the year. It has been beneficial to me in many ways. It is good for me to set a routine that I can actually adopt for life. It is having an organizing effect on me that I see in other aspects of my life too. I have done away with the acid re-flux problem that plagued my nights for almost 3 years. And, I've lost 18 real pounds, not water weight. I'm happy with my slow but steady progress. It's worth a try. Good luck to you. 

I'm just learning to feast after my fasting. I've been doing a 4 day fast and then sticking to 1700 calories. Now I'm trying to eat about 3000 calories on eating days - and not weighing myself. This week I'm eating Friday and Saturday and fasting the rest. 

Stay strong PC. You are doing well and just need a bit of space to find your own way. My diet plan is very simple.... I am a bit of a fraud to be honest! I just try to eat less than my RDI on most days. I do like a few carbs and I find it hard to give up bread, but I count the calories and keep myself busy! Well let's face it PC, I am not as young as I used to be and I'm determined to grow old disgracefully XX  

I know I've said it before but I'll say it again....I ate LC high fat and lost a ton of weight but at the expense of muscle. I have found it so much better and I feel so much stronger now eating optimal protein (not high), adequate fat (not high or low), and low carb. Good Luck 

Rckc are you very muscular. I've lot 35 kilos and lost mainly fat. Some of the machines apparently will weigh internal fat as muscle, but there again I don't have any defined muscles. 

minitata, no I'm not muscular at all...I started at 275 lbs, when I had lost around 115 or so, I had my BF measured, it was over 40%. At around 145/150 I had it done again and was around 34%. After adjusting my macros to more (not high) protein I feel so much stronger and hair and nails are growing FAST again. Beginning to see SOME definition of muscle. Plus, with more muscle and less fat I burn more cals and can eat more! 

I eat 94g protein, up to 80g fat, and no more than 23g net carbs. It works out to around 1188 calories a day...In this way, I am still getting most of my CALORIES from fat, just not as many GRAMS.... 

Wow Rckc ...how do you get to such specific targets.. must take a lot of planning ? 

poppy, the only one I MUST hit is protein. I've been using MFP to log food as it has been much easier to input recipes. I eat 2 meals a day, no snacks. I decide what protein I'm going to have for lunch and how much, I pair it with whatever side I'm having. I do the same with supper. At that point I see how it adds up. If I need to, I adjust the amounts, up or down, to hit what is needed. I don't do well with non-planning...I tend to go off the rails when I don't have limits in place...I got a lot of the info from the OKL group on FB. 

I'm with RCkc's about the protein. I got stuck for a while and everyone said the same to me and they were right, I wasn't eating enough protein. I enter my meals the night before and make sure my macro's are good so the next day all I have to do is follow the plan. It's less stressful then having to work it out that day. :-) 

MFP? 

I'm not a fan of the New Atkins, but sounds like it might be something that would work for you.  

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